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More info. OK, understood. In other words, just because some Biblical arguments were used to reinforce the ban on pork, we cannot conclude that at that point Adventists were well on their way to a full-blown teaching on the distinction between clean and unclean meats.
White never explicitly declared that the general distinction between clean and unclean meats was one which Seventh-day Adventists were still bound to observe. There is a slight but very important difference between saying you don't eat pork because it is a matter of health found in natural law, based on the pre-Jewish example of Noah, versus incorrectly telling people you don't eat it because it is 'unclean' as outlined in Leviticus, which wrongly suggests Adventists are following the Jewish ceremonial law, which was abolished at the Cross Acts I know some Adventists who quite weirdly thought you had to circumcise your son.
Sure, there is nothing with doing it, and like pork, recent UN World suggests it actually helps protect someone from sexually-transmitted disease. However, the NT makes it very, very clear that getting circumcised isn't strictly required Acts Perhaps Adventists who don't even know their own religion and giving the rest of us a bad name?
Actually there is no scientific reason for male circumcision at birth and the AMA no longer endorse the procedure. Yeh in western countries circumcision isn't really needed. The point is circumcision is not "needed" for salvation, as Acts 15 showed. But circumcising isn't a sin either, as Paul has Timothy circumcised. I guess I would be fairly tolerant of other's applications of these civil-sundry biblical principles. SDA did not condemn anyone who eat unlclean food, however the scripture suggest to refrain from eating unclean foods as define in Lev.
The SDA church does make eating unclean foods sound like a sin. I was raised in the church and my dad has been an Adventist for over 50 years.
That's the problem Kyra. Many Adventists don't know the "why" just the "what" of their religion. I was raised SDA and the church makes eating Pork or other so called unclean meat out to be a sin. They do call on Levitical law as a justification and plenty of Ellen White to drive it home. According to the article SDA's say dietary laws are timeless There is nothing more harmful in eating pork than there is in eating beef or lamb. The entire rule is to exercise control over the members.
In fact if Levitical and OT law is no longer in effect then why worship on Saturday? Andre I don't think the science is so clear cut in approving your pork eating. The dangers of trichinosis from pork is well known.
Adventists believe God didn't say something for nothing, just as he gave principles about sanitation and quarantine. Andre you may have been taught wrong if you were taught eating pork is a sin. As for the Sabbath, it is a different kettle of fish, because it is part of the eternal moral law found in the Ten Commandments.
That is very different from the rules about say cutting the corners of her hair or wearing blue tassels. All the historic creeds of Christianity say basically the same. Science completely agrees with you Andre. The only problem is the fact that Adventists as a group live longer than other westerners.
Science of course needs to answer that question first as despite their statement on health implications of the "unclean foods" the facts say different. Also remember that Adventism is a voluntary organisation, nobody is trying to exercise control. On the Sabbath you have already been answered sufficiently and I will leave it at that.
I believe in Romans 14, I am an Adventist but eat pork occasionally. I strongly believe that what you eat or don't eat does not grant us Salvation Matthew It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person. These passages are all talking about washing hands. But you are right.
I don't think you are being immoral or sinning by eating pork. Likewise, not disposing of your excrement is not a sin either, or quarantining people with infectious diseases, although the Bible suggests that too. But God never said those things for nothing. And vegetarianism was mankind's original diet. Mandatory vegetarianism is certainly wrong and Gnostic.
But voluntary vegetarianism has a long Christian history, mostly as forms of fasting days, going back to the "Church Fathers". The new testament dies not override, it merely expands the foundation laid by the old. Read Timothy where Paul writes, in the new testament, that all scripture is good for teaching, rebuking, training and instruction. Then remember that Paul is talking about the old testament, not the new. So the new testament specifically underpins and elevates the old.
This simple and clear verse is seldom understood when read by Christians trying to negate the old testament. Isn't it more important to magnify what you are putting into your spiritual being, instead of your fleshly being. Your body is of this world and will not go with you when Jesus comes back.
Pharisees liked to state "the law" ALL the time and Jesus was more about a relationship and fellowship. Discipline is great but sectioning certain parts of the Bible for a whole religion is silly to me. You are making a relationship with God far too difficult. He wants a faithful follower of the way Jesus walked not what you celebrate and how you eat. It makes no difference. It actually separates the body of Christ and after all that is the whole goal of the enemy.
Yes, the main focus is and always must be on Gods Moral Law, the 10 commandments. Consider the following statement: "Eat and drink what you like. High saturated fat foods if you want. Plenty of sugar rich food with it if that is your fancy. Ignore vegetables and eat lots of well marbled red meat. Exercise is for sissies, and besides it wastes valuable TV time.
A good cigar after dinner will make you feel much happier. Eat, drink and be merry, life is too short for this silly health focus nonsense. How many mothers would say that to their children? Adventists take the other route. We consider a human soul in a holistic light, and, like Jesus, recommend healthful living. We will give a more detailed explanation of this text below, but the explanation will be useful mostly for those with a more detailed knowledge of the issue. In short, the text used to justify eating pork is a highly misunderstood text.
Seventh-day Adventists refrain from eating pork because God has revealed that it is not good for food. It is important to understand that Seventh-day Adventists do not teach that a person becomes morally unclean by eating pork unless the eating is done as an act of defiance and rebellion against God.
Eating unhealthy food does not make someone spiritually unclean before God in and of itself. As Jesus taught, the food goes in the body and then out. Rather, it is evil thoughts and actions that make someone unclean before God.
However, those who love God and want to serve Him will seek the best in life and God has given valuable instruction in His word on how we should live.
The teachings in the both the Old and New Testaments regarding proper diet for believers are best understood in the context of God's purposes. So let's begin with God's purposes as revealed in scripture.
And God said, "See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food. Genesis In the beginning, humans didn't eat animals and animals didn't eat animals. We were all vegetarians!
God knows the structure of our bodies and what is nutritionally best for them. But, things changed after sin entered the world and some people began eating meat. Finally, after destroying the world with a flood God gave permission to man to eat certain animals. But that permission came with a warning. Meat eating would affect our health! I have given you all things, even as the green herbs. Now when the Bible uses the word "all" some people think that means everything.
But the word "all" needs to be understood in its context. The writer of this article is a "moving thing that lives. Can we eat any plant? Some are poisonous. Before the flood, God distinguished the animals according to cleanness. He told Noah to bring two each of unclean animals and seven each of clean animals.
See Genesis Thus, humanity was given permission to eat clean animals. Do you remember that warning? It just so happens that meat eating coincided with a decrease in life expectancy. Before the flood man lived to be very old, even hundreds of years. But after the flood, most people died before they were years old. When God brought the Israelites out of Egypt He intended to make them a holy nation that would share the knowledge of the true God with all the people of the earth.
See Exodus He put them on the central trade routes of the world and gave them His laws and commandments so they could witness to the world about God's ways.
Unbelievers would learn of God through the Israelite nation. To make this happen properly the Israelites needed to obey God and keep the laws of health. When they left Egypt, God gave the Israelites a vegetarian diet. But the Israelites rebelled against it.
In His mercy, God did not forsake the Israelite nation, which had been released from the bondage and ignorance of slavery. Instead, He regulated their diet. God gave them permission to eat certain animals if they raised them and killed them properly. There was a reason given for the Israelites to be careful with their diet, good health.
Deuteronomy Closely linked to healthy eating is holiness. You shall therefore consecrate yourselves, and you shall be holy; for I am holy. Neither shall you defile yourselves with any creeping thing that creeps on the earth.
You shall therefore be holy, for I am holy. This concept of holiness is called for in the New Testament: but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, 16 because it is written, "Be holy, for I am holy. As we can see from the scriptures, God is very much concerned with our holiness. He wants us to be a light in a dark world, so that we can exhibit truth in our lives instead of error. For this reason, He wants us to eat foods that will keep our bodies healthy and our minds clear.
We see this principle at play in the life of the prophet Daniel. After being taken to Babylon, Daniel refused to eat the luxurious and unhealthy foods provided by the king. See Daniel chapter 1. He chose to eat vegetables and as a result the king found Daniel and his friends to be healthier and 10 times wiser than anyone else. This should not escape our attention. There is a link between proper eating and good mental performance and spiritual discernment. Daniel is highlighted in scripture as a man of extreme moral integrity.
The New Testament outlines the principle this way: Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? If we are seeking God's glory we shall seek to keep our bodies in good condition.
Our bodies are the temple of God. Now with God's purpose for proper diet in mind we are better prepared to look at various texts in the New Testament, many of which are misunderstood and wrongly applied.
Mark So He said to them, "Are you thus without understanding also? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him, 19 "because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, thus purifying all foods? This statement has been used by many to support the idea that Jesus cancelled all distinctions between clean and unclean foods in scripture.
As a result, they say that Christians can eat whatever they want. Is this what Jesus is really saying? To properly interpret scripture, we must learn the context of the statements. Let's look at Mark For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they wash their hands in a special way, holding the tradition of the elders. And there are many other things which they have received and hold, like the washing of cups, pitchers, copper vessels, and couches.
The scribes and Pharisees want to know why the disciples do not wash their hands before eating according to the tradition of the elders. Jesus said the tradition of the elders was used to put aside the commands of God.
He goes on to give an example. Let's read Mark He answered and said to them, "Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: 'This people honors Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me. And many such things you do.
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